Vinegar Jar/ Break Up Spell [Hoodoo]

This is a spell I have performed in the past with great success. Actually, its a break up spell, but work great for any other reason. For a bad luck vinegar jar, as you know you put a photo with a name on the back and petition inside the jar. When not using it, leave the jar in the back of your toilet.
Looking forward the waning moon to perform it again!
Items required
– 1 black candle carved with the names of the target.
– Cayenne Pepper
– Black Pepper
– Red pepper (Habano or any red pepper)
– Poppy seeds
– Vinegar
-Habano
– dog poo
– 9 needles
– 9 pieces of broken glasses
– 9 nails (I only had 5 but as long as it’s an odd number that’s ok)
– a jar
– a piece of paper
Preparation of the Jar
You can do that ritual any day of the week. However, you gather more aggressive energies performing it on Tuesday (day of Mars) or Saturday (day of Saturn) OR at the hour of Mars or Saturn.
1. Write on the paper the name of the target.
2. Write your petition on the back of the paper. It can be a simple “break up”, or a more sophisticated petition such as “as this vinegar is sour, your relationship get sourer and sourer every day bla bla”. Write whatever you want to archive.
3. Tear up the paper in half so that each name is one each side of the paper (beware: don’t tear it up totally). Now fold each of the parts of the paper with the name folding “back to back” (the name must not be in contact when you fold the paper). Put the paper inside the jar.
4. Take the jar and put one after one each ingredient inside the jar. Each ingredient as a symbolism and you have to state your intent adding each one inside the jar :
– needles and nails represent needles they throwing at each other, wounds they’re inflicting each other
– red and black pepper and cayenne pepper bring discord and strifes
– poppy seeds bring confusion into their relationship, they can’t communicate each other anymore
– broken glass represent their broken relationship (or breaking relationship)
– dog poo literally shit their relationship
So, each time you put an ingredient you make the right statement (ie: when adding poppy seeds you state that they’re now confused and can’t understand nor communicate each other anymore). Do that for each ingredient.
5. Finish by filling the jar almost full with the vinegar (whatever kind of vinegar except balsamic because it’s too soft). Here again, state that their relationship is becoming sourer and sourer from now and that their only relief is to break up and never communicate again.
Close the jar.
6. Shake it cursing the targets, wishing them the worst (strifes, discord, hate, anger, miscommunication, confusion, break up, the death of their love etc, be creative !).
7. Take the black candle. Anoint it with vinegar and sprinkle cayenne pepper on it. If you have some dark oils (break up oil, black arts, destruction etc) you can use it.
Light the candle, melt some wax on the jar and fix the candle on it.
So you have your jar with the black candle burning onto it. But wait, that’s not finished ! (it could but I added some more dark energies with what I explain below).
Visualisation
8. Now look at the candle burning and visualize a black mist. Inside that black mist imagine the targets fighting, arguing, going to bed at night each one on one side of the bed, not talking to each other when they wake up etc etc (be creative, imagine the more situations of anger/strifes/conflicts possible).
You keep the black mist around them while you visualize all those bad things cause you want them to be suffocated by darkness. Visualise for 15 minutes (I warn you, this is VERY long, so I hope your visualization skills are ok) still watching the candle.
While visualizing you can mentally talk to them, wishing them the worst, to always argue, not loving each other anymore, that they have to break up to find peace etc etc. When the 15mns has elapsed stand up and leave the candle burning till the end.
9. Proceed to a cleansing bath with Hyssop or Holy Water. If you have not any of them, a good cleansing hoodoo bath can be made with black pepper, red pepper and a cup of vinegar put in a warm tube. Baptise yourself with the water while reading Psalm 51. Air dry, put some clean clothes, collect some of the tub water and toss it over your left shoulder toward the east and walk away without looking back. Personally, I prefer to ask for my Demons to keep me clean and “safe” !!!!
10. Shake your jar every day visualizing all the bad things happening to the target and cursing them out loud.
11. Burn a black candle dressed with vinegar+cayenne pepper every day for 7 or 9 days. You can also burn the candle only on Tuesday and Saturday.
PS1: every remaining of the wax can be tossed at a crossroads or in running water.
PS2: Put the jar in a plastic bag and don’t fill the jar with the vinegar to the top. While you shake it there is a possibility the jar to explore. This happens cause vinegar reacted and the gas (methane probably) made pressure on the glass a bit more every time when you shook and speed up the reaction.
So this is a simple vinegar jar spell I have enhanced a bit!!!
Hi,
How many days are you shaking this jar? when and where do you dispose of the jar? Do you do a cleansing bath after you do the spell and again after you dispose of the jar?
You are shaking it as long as it needs till you accomplish the goal of the jar. When you don’t need it anymore you can dispose of it by burying it, so basically, you give it to the Elements. I usually do a cleansing bath after i made it, to clean all the negative energies that raised when i made it!
Hello, a big thank you for this spell that I like a lot.
How long does it takes to work
Depends in every case. I have seen results in 2 weeks in some cases, and in 2 months in some others. I think all depends on the intention that you will put in the jar when you make it.
Can the jar be buried anywhere? Or does it have to be in a certain area?
Everywhere, except in a place close to the sea. the salt will destroy the spell.
Where do you get dog poop I really can’t see myself picking up dog poop I’d rather use my own poop than to touch a dogs
First of all you cant use your own, or something from you on this spell. It will turn against you. Second, it’s not so difficult. Use a paper and collect them. If you go to a park where the dog owners go their dogs for a walk I’m sure u will find. Besides that, you must put some effort if you wanna have success! 😉
Hey but if I’m using my dog’s poo it won’t somehow turn agains her right???
dont use something that you are connected with. you have a bond with it
After writing the names of targets behind the pictures,does it matter if the names are facing each other?
i ask because since the faces are away from each other,this means the names and DOB will be in contact?
No, they must not face each other. The names and the faces must be away from each other.
how do you place the picture in the jar cause when you shake the jar they might end up facing each other. do you tie it with something so they won’t face each other?
you fold it opposite to each other. you can also tie it with a black cord
Hi, when placing two pictures in jar, I understand they are not to be facing one another. But, for the names on back of photos, they will touch once I place them in jar. Should I place the petition in between the photos so they aren’t touching? Furthermore, can I fold the pictures times three to put inside of small jar? Thank you.
Yes, u can fold them. There is no problem if the names touch each other, the photos must be not facing one another.
Hi thank you for the spell.Can you please let me know what’s Habano is. thank you
It’s a pepper. You will also found it as Habanero.
Hello dear, can we use our nails ? Were to find others nail???
Of course, you can use the nails that you have in your house
How come she can use her own nails? Never use anything that belongs to you or associated with you.
did i say to use her own nails? of course on negative workings we dont use anything that has our DNA
This is basically a bottle spell. I’ve seen it done with a lemon. Can you put the photos in a lemon, and then add everything else, including the vinegar and put it in jar?
I haven’t heard about this again, but u can always add lemon juice inside. If you are talking about the lemon spell for breaking up a couple, that’s another spell!
Yes, I was thinking of combining the lemon with the vinegar spell. And also adding coffin nails. This is spell for discord. Not a complete breakup.
By adding coffin nails you brought the energy of death. if you want to do a death spell, that’s another thing. In vinegar jars, we don’t use those kinds of ingredients. if it was proper i will suggest adding graveyard dirt on it……
I have not yet started the spell and will be sure to avoid the coffin nails. I definitely don’t want death–only to sour the relationship and make it less harmonious.
Thank you for your advice!
If however I was doing a spell against someone’s career, would coffin nails be appropriate for the “death of their career?” Now I have all these coffin nails sitting in my drawer.
Also, how do I dispose of the jar once I’m done. I usually recycle my candle jars, but this is different. Should I bury in a cemetery? It’s quiet a large jar.
Nail coffins we usual use in more negative works. If you need further information you can email us to talk about it. You can bury it, so give it to the Elements, or you can open it and dispose it in running water.
I made the jar 2 months ago and I use my own poo. Is that bad? Will bad luck follow me? What should I do now? Should I destroy the jar and make a new one?
Of course its bad…send me an email to discuss it further…
so how come when you use your own pee in a hex/jinx/any dark work for control it doesn’t come back to you? i’m confused how it matters because you use your own poop. i didn’t. but i’m just saying
those who use their own DNA on negative workings are idiots. makes sense to use your OWN DNA on a curse for example?
What would happen if you bury the jar in the couple’s yard or can you break it in front of their house?
If you can do this, it’s more powerful! 😉
I could have poured it into the couple’s yard, but instead I buried it in a graveyard. Should I try to get it and pour it out in their yard? I think maybe at this point, the spell is done. I have walked away from it. Maybe if I ever do another version of this spell, I can leave it on their property.
My guess is that the spell is done. Wait to see if you will have results and then you can try another version! Candle magick for example! you can also do a divination to see if your spell was successful or not.
What if you bury the jar in the couple’s yard or break it in front of there house?
I don’t have black candles can I use the white candle instead? I don’t live where the river so can I put the jar in the garage trash?
It requires a black candle. yes, you can put it garage trash
I been doing the jar for 2 days already but I didn’t have any candle because I can’t find the black one. Can I just continue shake and pray over without the black candles? If I can find the black one how many day that I need to light the black candles right now since like 2 days already.
You can continue to shake it and when you shake it visualize what you want to happen. If you find a black candle, burn it for 7 days.
This hasn’t worked for me. But it has in the past… do you have something stronger to separate two people?
You can email us to rena@thekingpaimon.com to discuss it futher. Thank you
I been dating this guy on and off for 14 months and suddenly found out he has a new gf. I don’t know where and when all this happened. I want to do this break up jar on them but I also want us back together. Can I do both works at the same time or do I have to do one work at a time? If so how long should I wait to start the second work?
One at time. First, you break their relationship and then you do a working to bring him back to you. You cant do two workings same time. You must wait till you see that he broke up to start the other working. Keep in your mind that jars working very slowly but are very effective. If you need further information you can contact us via our email.
Im on my 8th day of doing this jar with black candles but since this time my husbad moved out of state with his new girl, can it still work? Or is it too late cause hes far away?
Distance doesn’t matter. If you haven’t seen results even small ones so far, maybe you need something stronger….
No results what so ever….he will not let her go. Can you help me?
Contact us via our mail and we will glad to assist you with our services.
Can you do the break up spell for me?
You can send us an email so we can discuss it further. Thank you!
Can we supplement the dog poo for cat feces?
To be honest i haven’t try to modify it. But you can try it and see if it will work or not
This hasn’t worked for me yet. I broke the jar about two weeks ago in the park close to where the two people live, but they are still happily together. I followed the instructions verbatim. Is there a way to make the spell more potent?
Maybe they need something stronger than that. What works for me doesnt mean that it will work for you…..
I DID A BREAKUP SPELL WITH VINEGAR CAYENNE AND RED HIT PEPPER FLAKES DIDNT HAVE PICS SO I DID NAMES WHEN I SHOOK IT UP THE PAPER WENT TO MUSH CAN I STILL COTINUE THE RITUAL OR SHOULD I START OVER?
You continue it as it is.
if i use my dogo poo it will not gona haram me and my dogs na ??
No it wont. you can use them.
I cast this spell but due to lack of knowledge i use a plastic jar which leaks when i shake it .. what should I do now should i continue of transfer it into another jar … or i put this jar as a its into another jar so if it leaks remain within or should I have to start it again pls assist …
Do a new one. In a glass jar this time.
What If you don’t know the girlfriends name?
then you cant do it…
I did the spell with black pepper, red pepper, 9 nails, dog poop and vinegar. The vinegar dried on the third day. Am I suppose to add more vinegar or leave it alone? It’s been 8 days and I haven’t seen any results
How did the vinegar dry on the third day inside the jar? You suppose you fill the jar and you close it. You dont open it so to dry. You expect to see results so quickly? Magick doesnt work like that. And im not sure if you didnt correct…
Hello I would also like to ask, I did it in a glass jar and on the side of the jar there’s black sticky stuff. Is that normal ?
i dont know what this thing is, so i cant say
I don’t have the nails of any one of the targets can I use something else to substitute
no. skip this part or if you dont have any other personal item of the target, use their photos
hey i was wondering if you can do this for me, because I don’t know how to do it, and I really want this guy but he has a long-distant girlfriend in the way
contact me via the contact form to discuss it.
What if while adding the ingredients you forget to add an ingredient an reopen the jar will it still work
No, the jar destroyed. You dont open the jar. Make a new open.
Need to know how you work
I describe it very detailed in the article.
I don’t have poppy seed can I still do thus spell
yes you can!
Hi, I see there are protection work and cleansing, you only shared the Cleaning part, can you please share protection spell before starting the ritual to prevent reverse curses.
A protection spell is not to prevent the backfire of a spell. We use protections against unwanted entities, other spells or curses. Having protections this doesnt mean that it will protect you from backfiring.
Hi there Rena,
I made the vinegar jar yesterday on a full moon, however I realized i didn’t put enough vinegar and it’s not as watery as I thought because of all the spices i put in. So the solids ratio of the jar is more than the liquid. Could i reopen the jar tonight and add more vineger? or would that break the spell? Thanks!
From the moment that you close the jar, you dont open it again. If you wanna add something make a new one….
I did spell and after 2nd week, the glass jar busted. I threw jar and contents down a sewer outside of my home. The couple did break up, in fact got a divorce. But, now I feel bad personal luck my way dealing with my career and life in general. Is it because jar busted in my home? By the way, the man and I are back together.
you dispose it outside of your house, its normal…. you need to reverse what you did and its little complicated….
What kind of spell you did?
Can I do it during new moon??? Please respond 🙏🏼
you can do it any time you want
The day the jar is made, is that day 1 of the 7 to 9 days of burning a black candle?
Does it really have to be dog dooo
Can something else be used.
I don’t have dogs. and here people by law have to clean up after their dogs.
Isn’t there anything else that is nasty to use.
If you can’t find, then don’t add dog poo…
I used coffin nails in this spell. I only wanted to break up a couple, not cause death. I’ve thrown the jar in a river. Should I do something to reverse it or just leave it alone now that the jar is disposed of?
I cant know if the spell backfires on you or not. On the article im not mention coffin nails. And i dont think that you have the knowledge to reverse something like that. Wait to see if you start having issues on your life and then you will see what you can do.
can you do this on one person not to cause a break up, just to sour their life a little bit? my ex bf was really abusive and hasn’t gotten any karma back in almost 4 months
No. this spell is not to change people behaviors.
thanks for this one!
Hi Renav, a) can I use a 10ml bottle for a simple spell like souring someone? b) if I did any kind of jar, whether small or big, can I keep it with me so that I continue to shake it till the job is done, or do I need to discard it after 9 or so days? Please reply. Ty.
you can use any type of jar is suitable for you. No. you can’t carry it with you all the time. You can shake it one time per day. it will not work faster if you shake it all the time. You dont discard it after 9 days. You keep it. Jars work very slow.
I really thought that this had worked.
I was full of hope.
Then only last Night it was apparent that it hasn’t worked. Or maybe it worked for a couple of weeks or so, or they were good at hiding their moves..
I’ve still got the jar.
What do I do with it now.
Not all spells are suitable for every case out there. Maybe it needs something stronger, maybe something else. Open the jar, dispose of what it has on the toilet and dispose the jar on the garbages.
Hi I had paid someone to do this for me, I’m just waiting on the results now what are the signs that I should look out for that show the spells is working and how long do it usually take for the spell to manifest
The sign will be to break up. How long before you have done it?
Did they break up
Hi, I have only one black candle. Can I let it burn for 15 minutes each day for 7 days? Can I use cat poop?Thank you.
no….needs dogs poop. and yes you can leave it to burn for 15 min each day
Hi l want to know do you do spells and do you do it if someone pays you to , l want one done to remove an person living under my apartment and out the door please let me know
you can send me an email to rena@thekingpaimon.com to discuss it further!
I did a few things, I wrote both peoples name 9x on two pieces of paper and a petition on the back of both. I tied them away from each other (non – facing) with black thread. I added, 9 needles, 9 Pins, 9, Rusty Nails, Crossing Powder, Graveyard dirt, Hotfoot Powder, Cayenne, Chilli Powder, Red Pepper Flakes, Black Pepper, Black Cat and Dog Hair, Lemon Juice, Lime Juice and Vinegar. Then I cut a lemon in half put their pictures in the flesh of the lemon on both sides and stuck black pins and added more pepper and dog and cat hair i between the two. Put the lemon halves together, put rusty nails through the lemon and sewed up with black thread. Put all that in the jar then lit a black candle spoke my intentions for 30 min maybe an hour, burn frankincense as I burned the candle and chanted. The black candle burned out this morning. I shook the jar and put behind the base of my toilet where once daily I will shake it up and put it back. But I only burn my black candle on Tuesdays and Saturday and I started the process on Tuesday. I’m going to keep for 9 days then bury in a graveyard. I also maybe a week ago burned a 4th Pentacle of Saturn Candle and did an offering of lead and water with the same intent. Typically how long will you see results and is it ok to just burn your candles on Tuesdays and Saturday before burying? Also this couple lives out of town does that matter??
Distance doesnt matter! Yes its ok to burn the candles those days. Jars usually work very slow till they give you results!
Thank you! I dropped the jar in a well at a cemetery last week and poured vinegar in the well. The jar may have broken when it hit the bottom of the well, but it isn’t a well of prosperity and I made a sacrifice before putting it in there. The cemetery had been around since the 1800. Is this okay!
sacrifice? what kind and why you did that?
Not a sacrifice but an offering!
it didnt required an offering…..
Can you do this spell for me please
you can email me to rena@thekingpaimon.com to discuss it further
I heard that not only do you want them to break up but you want the intent of him coming back to you to write that on the petition. If I put my name or say come back to me on the petition in the jar will it effect me?
the jar is a break up spell. If they break up this doesnt mean that he will come back to you. This requires another type of working
I don’t know her name but I have her picture knows the month she was born I know what kind of car she drives. Can I use that information to do this spell? One more question I want to wish bad luck on him. What spell can I use that works effective immediately? Thanks
No, you cant use this spell, you dont have enough info so to cast it. There are plenty of spells for bad luck…which are a little bit tricky cause they can backfire very easily to you
I did a jar spell previously, but I didn’t know the other woman’s real name (only had her Instagram nickname). So now that I know her real name, should I do another jar? Do I dispose the old jar? It’s been three weeks. Husband still hasn’t broken up with her. Also, how bad is it to just dispose of jars in the trash outside of my home?
its better to bury it somewhere away from your house. But it seems that the jar is not suitable for your case….not all spells are suitable for every situation…maybe your case needs something stronger…
I used MY dogs poop is that bad?
Nope! its ok!
Can sea salt be added to denote the folks inside the jar turn “salty” against each other?
No. We use salt for cleanishing and banishing. What salt has to do on a break-up spell?
I’m new to this and thank you for the clarification. In the mundane world “throwing salt” on someone helps to break them up but I understand this is magic so it’s different.
can I just bury the break up jar in my yard or can I just throw it in a river?
in a river. dont even think to bury this on your yard
I don’t quite get the picture part.
I have picture of the couple
plan to: split the pic in half in the middle to separate them. In the back of the pic, write the correspondent name for each part? Or do I write both names on each part of the pic?
for the petition part, do I just write the sentence out? Or cross on top of 1 name? Cross on top of both names?
Then I fold each part of the pic separately, tie them with black string so no unravel while shaking
I know I don’t have to use pic….just want to add extra effect to it. Yes I’m very sour with this situation!!!!
in the back on the pic you write the name of the person who is in the pic. No. only one name. im not understand what you mean by cross….
when i say cross, i meant in some blogs/vids about this vinegar jar, some ppl write “one name 3 times, turn paper counter-clockwise, write the other name on top 3 times, turn paper counter-clockwise again, then write like ‘break up’ on top of the 2 names”
I know this is a petition for Love jar….but some vinegar jar blogs mentioned it too
Also, your service is currently close? When do you think of accepting order again? I need help with breaking up
send me an email to discuss it in private plz.
Last year my partner boss was making our life a living hell, I just did a simple vinegar freeze jar, His photo and other 2 people photos, with their names I didn’t really fold it, then I sealed the lid with wax, I draw a pentagram in a piece of paper and counterclockwise I wrapped around the paper with the pentagram on top of the lid black ribbon, made 3 knots, light up a white candle on top until melted all away an I placed in the freezer, it was October, my partner boss gave hard time to my partner we had a bad Christmas, and it continued so until March, when the first of April we found out unexpectedly was gone from the company. Coincidence, I don’t think so, when I made the spell I said I don’t mean you any arm, I don’t hate you, but I want you to feel the way I am feeling because I believe in universal justice!
He seemed so strong in. His position but he went, even his financial director was fired. The jar is still in my freezer because a share holder of the company was frozen with him, and we don’t really hear about her so far. Should I still leave in the freezer?
if the jar completes the purpose that you had made it for, you must dispose of it.
I have someone trying to breakup my relationship and recently found my husbands name in a glass jar with what I believe is vinegar… seems like the name on the brown paper is alosmt faded… what do I do with it to remove this hex… open it ? Discard of it? Pee on it I’ve heard? Please advise thank you in advance.
hexes cant be removed this way. needs another type of work. you can email me to rena@kingpaimon.com to discuss it further.
I did this spell but just with the red peppers, cayenne pepper, black pepper, vinegar, and dog poop. Of course I had the pictures, petition, and personal info…My intentions and each ingredient still has its purpose, I did not use the glass, nails, poppyseed, needles, or habanero … will it still work? I’m assuming so because I’ve seen other versions of this that just only use vinegar and red pepper. Once the spell is done, what do I do with the jar. How do I dispose of it properly, I don’t want it to be ruined… Should I burry it near their house, in the same proximity, I don’t know the exact address, or I have were he works at too and I’m always there… I also live right by train tracks… What should I do with the jar to get the best results? Thank YOU!
for more strong results you can bury it close to their house or a grave yard.
I’m usually looking on you tube today I searched google and I must say this looks to be a great taught spell ! So I don’t throw the jar out after 9 days ? Just shake every day or the two days a week ? I’m afraid it will explode
you can put it on a plastic bag and shake it.
Hello, I have a question, my vinegar jar, the brown paper absorbed the vinegar. I’ve never seen anything like this. What do you suppose it could mean?
i dont think it means something. its something normal…
Do I need to take a cleansing bath after?
yes
I did two sour jars on Friday the 13th. I made one for his mom and the woman I want gone. as well another one for him and that same woman. I used war oil to cause them to fight, Shut your mouth oil because she treated to get him fired and call the police yeah she crazy, and I put the same oil on her position paper only. War oil to cause then to fight. Different path oil to leave each other. Break up oil & hate oil. And I used used my black cat hair only on his jar. On both glass jar used the petition paper tore it in half away from each other and birthdays, of course I used white vinegar, Hot chili flakes, Cayenne pepper, peppercorn, Pepper, Lemon. I have a candle for each jar but I could not use it. It’s been 12 days i don’t see it working I shake it hard everyday and I envision them breaking up using hateful words. Kicking the woman out his house because she stay over sometimes. He lives with his mother btw. I just want that woman gone. Since I’m not using the candle is it possible that it just slowing down the spell. It’s been 12 days. Or should I be patience. Also how could Dispose the jars when I’m done. Thank you
the candle is really important, the flame brings its own energy and holds a lot of power, and you’re supposed to focus and put your intentions in the flame. Also keep an eye on your black cat if it was your own, i used a dog’s poop i sit for and he got cancer in his rectum on the third month after making the jar and died…
So i just disposed of the jar, I worked with it for 3 full moon cycles and this last full moon, (i used poop from a dog i sit for) and his owner texted me saying he got rectal cancer and only has 2 weeks to live, I dont know if that was because of the jar, but if it was would that mean the spell is going to work well? I wasn’t able to bury it near his house or at a graveyard, but i put it on traintracks going the same direction (North) that he lives.
Do I have to burn the candle płaci g it on the jar or just burn it anywhere?
usually we burn it on the top of the jar
In regards to the petition and photos, can I do this? – Write the name and birthday at the back of each photo, write a petition paper with 2 persons’ name opposite (upside down) of each other, then it anti-clockwise once, on top of the names, I write ‘break up’ 5 times over the names. Then I put this petition paper in between the photos where the back of the photos (written name and birthday) touching the petition paper. Then I roll them up and tie it with a black string. Is this a good way or correct way to perform this break up jar? Thanks for your help.
Yes you can do it this way.
Hi
My black candle turned out to be white on the inside, but its all black on the outside. Do I need do a new jar?
Thank you
No, no need to…
Thank you so much! I did the jar last saturday, shaking it everyday with out loud cursing towards the couple and burned a candle on tuesday andthis saturday. Disposed of the cadlw remains on a crossroads
THEY BROKE UP THAT WEEK. Witch whoever created this spell ifly.
Hi, can I use sea salt to bathe with after performing the spell and after shaking?
of course you can!
I would like you to do it for me. How much will it cost?
You can send me an email to rena@thekingpaimon.com to discuss it further if you want.